A few months back Mike and Joao received an interesting email from a listener of the podcast. This week the author of that email joins the guys to explain her theory on the connection between MKULTRA, The First Order, Snoke and Kylo Ren. Put your tin foil hats on, this is where the fun begins.

Quick Episode Summary:

  • Disney to start it’s own streaming service
  • Quick introduction into CIA mind control experiments
  • Does Kylo Ren exhibit symptoms of brain changing?
  • Kylo Ren and Snokes relationship
  • Operation paperclip and the connection to the First Order
  • Stormtroopers and brain-washing
  •  Magician John Mulholland and Snoke parallels
  • Dr. Alden Sears and Snoke Parallels
  • Psychic diving
  • Darth Vader’s helmet and it’s effect on Kylo Ren’s mind
  • Conclusion of Kylo Ren being Brain changed


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  • Email: mccort.katie@gmail.com

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